Hi Angie! I will also attempt to shed some light on your questions and concerns.
You wrote: Have Never been caned, but have been switched, as a girl, and as an adult. Luckily, my husband and Sue have no interest in caning me, and I have intention of asking!
****Awww.. rattan canes can be really wonderful!! No synthetic material "cane", paddle, or anything feels the same. Nothing else has the same degree of sting and burn. Whether you are more attracted to implements that give sting & burn, or thud, there is a cane that would appeal to you.
You wrote: And while I've never been caned, I've always had a fascinated dread of it, from all the 'vanilla' books with canings in them, to the english spanking stories (which always seemed to be six of the best stories...) that I was able to find before I discovered the net.
*****Yes, canes do have quite a reputation and long history. That doesn't mean they can't be used in a manner that gives the bottom a grand measure of pleasure.
You wrote: The stories always make it sound so severe, and then I see vids like the Rigid East Vids, and think Oh My God!
***** They CAN be, if used that way. A paddle or any other implement, including hands, hairbrush, etc can inflict lots of damage too, if used hard for an extended period. That doesn't mean it HAS to be used that way. A story or video showing or telling of a cane lightly tapping around, tickling the bottom, making the spankee laugh and giggle probably wouldn't sell as well as the shocking tales and photos of the extreme stripes these can lay across one's butt.
I know I really enjoy feeling canes dance across my skin. Oh, ok... they can be hell, too.. but as i'm sure you know, it's all in what the top wants you to feel.
You wrote: And while the vids and pics here aren't as extreme, the girls ARE feeling it, the same girls who don't always seem to react that much to what I would consider to be hard paddlings and strappings.
***** Hee hee, yes.. wonderful, isn't it? I've seen bottoms jump and prance around nicely under the cane, where all they did was sit still, almost seeming bored while under a paddle, etc. I love seeing that!!!
You wrote: I saw the link to schoolcanes.com, and went there, and now have even more questions.
Such as, what is the point in dipping the end of the cane in latex? To make it hurt more, to make it mark more, mark more, or something else?
Besides aesthetic differences, what IS the difference between a crook handle and straight cane, well, besides looks, being able to hang it on a peg. But does it make a difference discipline wise?
***** No, it really doesn't make a difference in the feel of the cane when it strikes the bottom, or accuracy of the stroke. Some people prefer the more classic design of a Crook Handled British School Cane, and some prefer something more modern. It basically comes down to personal preference. The different finished handles made by modern canemakers can give a very sure, comfortable grip for the top. Handle design and finish would not affect what the bottom feels.
You wrote: I had thought that the narrower canes were supposed to be more wicked, as it would have a smaller surface area and so raise worse wheals. But in the udates, I see the girls punished with the largest of the canes. Besides size, what is the difference for the spankee? Bigger Welt? Less chance of breaking skin? Deeper/longer lasting hurt?
***** It is sort of hard to explain, without actually feeling it. But I will attempt to describe the differences. Please note that I am a bottom/spankee only. I make canes, but I don't use them on people. The narrower canes do have more sting to them. The thicker you go, the more thud.. it works very much like the lashes on a flogger. ALL canes have the ability to welt and tear flesh, if used that way. Well, ok.. until you get up around one inch thick, anway. Those are strictly thud.
Ok, now.. a 1/4 inch cane would have a lot of sting to it. You also have to consider the density of a cane. Some are lighter (yes, physical weight), and some are denser/heavier. The lighter canes will not penetrate as deeply and will not hurt as much, no matter the thickness of the item. The denser the cane, the less flexible it is.. but we don't want them wrapping around to the side of the hips anyway, do we?? OUCH The denser the cane, the more you are going to feel it.. but again.. it doesn't have to be used at 100% of someone's strength, either.
As you work your way up the cane sizes, the 5/16 inch and 3/8 inch are the most common for what we do. The extra width gives more of a "burn" feeling than those that are thinner. The photos you see of the classic cane stripes on butts are usually made by those sizes. They penetrate more deeply into the flesh and will do more "deep damage" than a thinner cane. But the thinner cane has more sting, remember. lol The thinner canes are more like "surface damage" where those thicker go deeper.
Basically, they all can be heaven, or hurt like hell.. it just depends on the desire of the top. But there are differences in the feel.
You wrote: How much chance is there of breaking the skin with a cane? Does size of the cane make a difference?
***** Skin is not usually broken accidently, unless you are playing with a top that is new to canes. With a little practice on a pillow, they can get good very quickly. Accuracy is VERY important. The thicker canes will break skin more easily... but it shouldn't be a problem unless the top wants to break skin. They can see when your skin is getting to that point.
You wrote: I had read a LONG time ago, in a Mr. magazine, from a letter from a woman from British Columbia, about how care always had to be taken to prevent cane strokes from crisscrossing, otherwise you would end up with permament marks where the wheals crossed. True or not? Because you hear a LOT in the stories and vids where they do that diagonal strippy thing on purpose! (Ow ow ow ow!)
****** Not really true. There certainly will be more skin damage where strokes intersect. It depends more on how hard you are being struck. I have a couple small scars on my upper thigh where two cane strokes were allowed to wrap to the side and dig in. But they were not crisscrossed with other strokes. You won't end up with any permanent scars, unless the canes are being used very hard on you. In normal play, no.. not a problem.
You wrote: How much of a difference is there between a caning and a switching?
******* Switching is usually done with branches. They are usually not nice and straight like a finished cane, and so not as accurate. I really like my tops to be accurate. I'm sure they can be fun, but i'll stick with my canes.
You wrote: How much difference does position of the spankee make when she is getting the cane, aesthetics aside?
****** I think it depends on how fleshy your butt is. If you are bent over at an extreme angle, so your skin is pulled taught.. stretched out, the effects will be more extreme. If you have a fleshy butt, it wouldn't make very much difference. When I"m playing, if the top is wrapping with the cane a little, i will spin a little bit to change the angle of the strike so it is hitting me squarely on the butt. You want nice, even strokes so they aren't hitting harder on one side than the other.
You wrote: Besides caning,been fascinated by birching, too. Not the big old judicial birches, but the smaller little otk birch bundles, complete with smaller twigs and buds. And I see in some of the updates, and the cane site, that they have cane bundles. Would a bundle leave worse or fewer big welts?
******* If you mean the rattan birches (damn, almost wrote bitches.. my true name for them lol).... They do more light surface damage than a full sized cane. They sting like a bitch when they are the first thing used on you. Again, the thinner the thing hitting you, the more sting. If you a fan of sting, these are for you. They leave a tracing of fine red lines that is quite cute to look at. As for welts and damage, they don't damage as much because they are lighter in weight.. but they have a ton of sting. Where the tips dig into your skin, is where you'll get the welts from those. I make an Extreme Line version of those, with wire-wrapped tips. For lovers of sting, they are the ultimate.
I usually recommend that people new to canes purchase two or three of varying thicknesses to learn on. You will know quickly which you like best. But if you already know whether you prefer sting or thud, this should help you. If you have other questions, feel free to contact me at
WhypDancer@aol.com or look at my website:
http://www.canes4pain.com I have a lot of descriptions of the feel of the various implements there. I hope this cleared up your questions.
~whyp
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Wish I could say the same. But I play long and very hard.. there is always skin breakage. Oh well lol I'm not giving up playing though! lol
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